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PagesHomeDisclosures and DisclaimersBooks for Sale Friday, November 12, 2021 Digging Into the entire FamilySearch.org website: Family Groups (Part Six)

https://www.familysearch.org/en/blog/shared-family-groups-feature

Just when you think you have a handle on the vast FamilySearch.org website, FamilySearch adds a whole new feature that extends the website into altogether new territory. Family Groups have been requested and "under discussion" for years. The main idea is that based on the issue of why family members have to duplicate all the entries for living people. As it stands today, if you add you living, parents, grandparents, children and grandchildren to the program, no one can see them except for you. This means that if every other living member of you immediate family also adds in these living people, the FamilySearch website adds a distinct individual for each of these entries. So, as I stated, for years we (those of us who would like a resolution of this problem that allows family members to see each other's entries) have been talking about this issue and asking for a solution.

Surprise!, FamilySearch.org as added family groups to the website. However, this is just a minor "baby step" towards solving the problem of the massive number of duplicate entries for living people. Here is what FamilySearch says about the groups; "The new family groups feature makes it easy to send FamilySearch messages to a selected group of your living relatives on FamilySearch." The new feature is mainly a way for families to communicate inside of the program. By they way, this has been a feature of the MyHeritage.com website for years. The rest of the features of the new program benefit members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by adding the ability to share temple ordinance reservations with family members. You can see the link to Family Groups under the settings menu.

I look forward to the time when we can actually share the memories and other information about living people with our immediate family members. One issue raised by the current status of the information locked into each person's entries about living people is what happens to all your personal memories, information about living people, and your reserved temple ordinances when you die?

I have been searching in the FamilySearch Help Center for a current answer to this question for some time now. Here are some of the articles in the Help Center that talk about the situation, but so far, I have not been able to find an answer.

Why does a person in my Family Tree private space have multiple contributors?How does Family Tree protect the privacy of living people?How do I change a status from living to deceased in Family Tree?How do I merge duplicates in my private space in Family Tree?Can I add memories about my living relatives to Family Tree?Who can view the items uploaded in Memories for living people?Can I transfer my Family Tree private space to another user?Can my living relatives share a Family Tree private space to work together?

The last comment comes as close as I can find to the answer but does not address the issue of memories or documents attached.
As I said, a nice baby step but not a solution.

Here are the previous posts in this ongoing series.

Part One:https://genealogysstar.blogspot.com/2021/10/digging-into-entire-familysearchorg.html
Part Two:https://genealogysstar.blogspot.com/2021/10/digging-into-entire-familysearchorg_29.htmlPart Three:https://genealogysstar.blogspot.com/2021/11/digging-into-entire-familysearchorg.htmlPart Four:https://genealogysstar.blogspot.com/2021/11/digging-into-entire-familysearchorg_5.htmlPart Five:https://genealogysstar.blogspot.com/2021/11/digging-into-entire-familysearchorg_9.htmlPosted byJames Tannerat8:36 AMNo comments: Email ThisBlogThis!Share to TwitterShare to FacebookShare to Pinterest Tuesday, November 9, 2021 Digging Into the entire FamilySearch.org website: RootsTech 2022 (Part Five of this series)

https://www.familysearch.org/rootstech/rtc2021/

Look closely at the URL for the image above. You might note that RootsTech 2022 is still on the FamilySearch.org page for 2021, but that will shortly change. Consistent with this series about digging down into the FamilySearch.org website, I think it is time to talk about RootsTech 2022. You will also note that I am in the Influencer Group. Hmm. Let's go back to RootsTech 2011, the very first time the conference was held with that name. At that time, there were a group of about 20 or so bloggers who were "known" in the greater genealogy blogging community. For some unknown reason at the time, I was included in that group. Blogging was a big, relatively new deal. Those people who are now making their millions off of YouTube.com had their counterparts in the blogging community, some of those bloggers have gone on to form entire companies around their blogs and are now on YouTube.com. I could give a few examples, but you probably can guess those who got their start as bloggers. OK, one example Ree Drummond, The Pioneer Woman. I got to meet her at one of the RootsTech conferences, by the way.

So, here we were at RootsTech 2017 and we were given a royal welcome with dinner, tours, and a lot of other advantages. Time passed. Bloggers were pasé. We became Ambassadors. Different name, same function. Advertise RootsTech. So now, we are Influencers. But this also means that we are all involved in different areas of the online influencing community, we are not all bloggers and we do not all blog about genealogy all the time. Now we post to Instagram, Facebook, and a hundred other venues.

So what about RootsTech 2022? It will look something like it did in 2021, but with more online content. Here is the announcement video.

https://youtu.be/w28NJMkR_kw

Now, after more than ten years, I am still writing the same blog. I have not made millions off of the blog or YouTube or whatever and I am still writing mostly about genealogy with some technology thrown in. What will I be doing at RootsTech 2022? Primarily, I will be spending the entire week from Monday, February 28th to Saturday March 5th, 2022 online for 4 hours every day supporting the Salt Lake City, Family History Library and the Brigham Young University Family History Library consulting with patrons primarily in Latin America in Spanish. See this link for the information about this virtual consultation effort.I will also be supporting The Family History Guide with their online presence and classes during the conference. As usual, I will also be blogging about the experience before, during, and after RootsTech 2022.

Hope to see or hear from you all at the RootsTech 2022 Conference.

Again, the FamilySearch website is a lot more than initially meets the eye or can be found by clicking.

Here are the previous posts in this ongoing series.

Part One:https://genealogysstar.blogspot.com/2021/10/digging-into-entire-familysearchorg.html
Part Two:https://genealogysstar.blogspot.com/2021/10/digging-into-entire-familysearchorg_29.htmlPart Three:https://genealogysstar.blogspot.com/2021/11/digging-into-entire-familysearchorg.htmlPart Four:https://genealogysstar.blogspot.com/2021/11/digging-into-entire-familysearchorg_5.htmlPosted byJames Tannerat6:40 PMNo comments: Email ThisBlogThis!Share to TwitterShare to FacebookShare to Pinterest Friday, November 5, 2021 Digging Into the entire FamilySearch.org website: Part Four

Navigating around on the huge FamilySearch.org website is like a trip over an endless ocean. Navigating the website includes learning how to avoid being distracted with a proliferation of "helpful" features. A recent news article highlighted even more new features. See "3 FamilySearch features to help new and beginning users search and find their ancestors."

The three features highlighted by the story are a Discovery Search Experience, Ancestor Pages, and the updated way to search the Historical Record Collections. Sometimes, if you don't want to use these new beginning features, you are stuck with several additional clicks to work with some of the basic functions of the website. What are those basic functions? I would suggest the following:

Adding and editing information in the FamilySearch Family TreeSearching the digital images of historical records on the websiteAdding Memories to supplement and support entries in the Family TreeThere is also a section of the website that connects to the Indexing web-based program. For members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the program is the only way to reserve and share temple ordinances. The website also has a mobile counterpart. There are some other features of the program such as a recently redesigned Help Center, an online Community,
Over the years, FamilySearch has repeatedly tried to involve new users to the website in a variety of ways. For the past seven or so years, I have also been involved in the same effort to educate new users of the FamilySearch.org website and additionally help people how to do genealogical research. I decided to become involved in supporting and contributing to a structured, sequenced, free website called The Family History Guide.
thefhguide.com
Since both The Family History Guide and FamilySearch.org are non-profit, charitable organizations, they are not in competition. The Family History Guide directly supports not only FamilySearch but also Ancestry.com, Findmypast.com, MyHeritage.com, and many other websites. Working with The Family History Guide has reinforced my basic belief that in order to understand and use the FamilySearch.org website or become involved in any research-based family history activity, you need to learn quite a lot of essential information. There is no easy or fast way to search historical records for specific information about an ancestor or relative. The Family History Guide provides specific helpful information about each step of the research process and adds instructions for using FamilySearch as well as the other websites.
So, how do the new features on the FamilySearch website help people get started with learning how to search and record information from historical records? The first problem is that since I have been using the program for a while, I cannot find any links to any of the newly implemented features. In the Help drop-down menu, you may see a selection entitled, "Getting Started, How to Do Family History." If you click on this link you will see the following page.

All of these screens may change if you are not a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, you will see a different screen or some of the feature may be missing. All of the options are useful and helpful to those who have no idea about genealogical research. At the bottom of this page, there is a link that will take you to your personalized startup page.

Here are the previous posts in this ongoing series.

Part One:https://genealogysstar.blogspot.com/2021/10/digging-into-entire-familysearchorg.html
Part Two:https://genealogysstar.blogspot.com/2021/10/digging-into-entire-familysearchorg_29.htmlPart Three:https://genealogysstar.blogspot.com/2021/11/digging-into-entire-familysearchorg.htmlPosted byJames Tannerat2:38 PM1 comment: Email ThisBlogThis!Share to TwitterShare to FacebookShare to Pinterest Thursday, November 4, 2021 Millions of additional French Records added by MyHeritage

Three weeks ago, MyHeritage.com published 463 million French historical records that were previously exclusive to Filae the leading French genealogy company that we recently acquired. This week, they announced the publication of 22 million additional records from Filae.
Quoting from an email announcement:

These 8 new collections include census, military, and burial records, and they cover centuries of French history and many French departments. They serve as an excellent complement to the vital records and censuses released last month, and further solidify MyHeritages position as the go-to resource for anyone interested in learning more about their European ancestors.

You can find out more about these records from this blog post.

MyHeritage Publishes 22 Million Records in 8 New French Collections

Posted byJames Tannerat9:36 AMNo comments: Email ThisBlogThis!Share to TwitterShare to FacebookShare to Pinterest Wednesday, November 3, 2021 Digging Into the entire FamilySearch.org website: Part Three

A few years ago, FamilySearch began formulating the idea of a "Family Discovery Center." This would be a place where people could come and discover their families. This brings us to the FamilySearch Blog or Blogs. Here is a link to a post about Discovery centers from 2014, before the first Discovery Center opened. The idea evolved into a series of large monitors, a recording studio for personal memories, and other activity oriented interactive displays. In 2015, the first Discovery Center was installed in the Joseph Smith Memorial Building in Salt Lake City, Utah as part of the Family History Center. Other Discovery Centers were planned and installed including a major installation on the first floor of the Salt Lake City Family History Library.

https://www.familysearch.org/discovery/schedule

You might note that these pages are somewhere on the FamilySearch.org website. This is what you find when you begin digging.
New Family Discovery Centers are being installed in various locations, mostly in the western part of the United States. Here is a page from the FamilySearch.org Research Wiki explaining about the Discovery Centers. Up-to-date information about times and locations does not seem to be readily available. The Brigham Young University Family History Library is seldom mentioned or included because it is not a "FamilySearch Library," it is part of the Brigham Young University. Here is another link on the ChurchofJesusChrist.org website about the discovery experience.
Now, back to the activities. Each of the activities is a separate part of the FamilySearch.org website. Because I am digging into the website, I find that these pages are not individually listed in the Site Map for the FamilySearch.org website. These activities on the website are similar or the same as those in the Discovery Centers.
Now for another set of pages that are not easily located but this one happens to be listed on the site map although I have never found a link. Maybe someone can point one out. This is the Salt Lake City, Family History Library, the main library.
https://www.familysearch.org/en/family-history-library/

This is almost a separate website and should be easier to find. You can find it with a Google Search. I am going to reserve this part of the FamilySearch family of websites for a future post because I have a lot to say about the Salt Lake City Family History Library. However, the link should get you started.
Here is another web page that is indirectly linked from the help menu as it is at the time of this post. What this means is that previously, this page was unlinked and harder to find.
https://www.familysearch.org/fhcenters/locations/

This is an interactive map showing Family History Centers and Libraries around the world. You can zoom in to see an individual library or center. Here is the information when you click on the BYU Family History Library.
This is useful to me because I talk to people around the world and I can send them to this map so they can find a Family History Center near where they live.
You are welcome to comment, ask questions, or even contact me through the BYU Family History Library Virtual Help Desk. Here is the link to the Help Desk:https://fh.lib.byu.edu/live-virtual-missionary-help/
Here are the previous posts in this ongoing series.

Part One: https://genealogysstar.blogspot.com/2021/10/digging-into-entire-familysearchorg.html
Part Two:https://genealogysstar.blogspot.com/2021/10/digging-into-entire-familysearchorg_29.htmlPosted byJames Tannerat1:09 PMNo comments: Email ThisBlogThis!Share to TwitterShare to FacebookShare to Pinterest Friday, October 29, 2021 Digging Into the entire FamilySearch.org website: Part Two

If you happen to have tens of thousands of relatives in the FamilySearch.org Family Tree, your personal startup screen might look like this one once you sign in. But this screen is customizable and so everyone's screen may look different and if you are just starting out, it may look quite different. In the screenshot above, there is a notice that says: "Were testing new features that help you share important family moments and connect with others." Keeping up with the changes to the website is a challenge. As I dig into the structure, operation, and functionality of the FamilySearch.org website, you will probably be amazed at the number of pages that seem to have no links. Many of these abandoned or orphan pages are still online but invisible from any link on the website itself. Some pages have links but not from any part of the website that users would generally visit. So now we launch off into the known and unknown world of the FamilySearch.org website.

I thought about conducting this survey from the standpoint of coming into the website for the first time but when I saw that there was already a newly advertised feature, I decided to take a more eclectic view and merely wander around like I would in a large museum seeing what I could highlight and discover. The first thought, just like with a museum, is there a map of the floor plan? Hmm. the answer for the website is yes and no.

The "map" for any website is really a map and it is called the "Site Map." FamilySearch.org does have a Site Map. There is a link to the Site Map at the bottom of the startup pages. Note there are two "startup pages;" the one you get when you open the website and the one you get when you are registered after you sign in.

Here is a screenshot of the bottom of the pages showing the Site Map link. Since we are just beginning our exploration of the website, you will note several other links that suggest our voyage of discovery may take a very long time.

Here is the Site Map.

https://www.familysearch.org/site-map

Some of the links are to other websites. Over time, there are pages that are no longer linked or pulled from the website so finding a link may be difficult. Here is one example.

https://www.familysearch.org/campaign/pioneers/
You can look at the URL (link) and see that this webpage is apparently on the website somewhere, but it is not in the Site Map. It is one of the activities listed in the "Activities" menu when you click on the drop down menu item for All Activities.
Back to the Site Map. I suggest exploring all the links. It is a good way to get an idea of exactly what is available and what may be more difficult to find. Bear in mind, that there are parts of the website that are not listed on the Site Map. Here is another example.
https://community.familysearch.org/en

If you look at this URL, you will see that is it still from FamilySearch.org but really on a separate website. The link to this website is accessed from the question mark icon at the top right of the pages.
I would appreciate questions or comments as I work my way slowly through the entire website.
Here is the previous post in this ongoing series.

Part One:https://genealogysstar.blogspot.com/2021/10/digging-into-entire-familysearchorg.html

Posted byJames Tannerat8:15 AM1 comment: Email ThisBlogThis!Share to TwitterShare to FacebookShare to Pinterest Thursday, October 28, 2021 Digging into the entire FamilySearch.org website: Part One

In about 1998 a decision was made by the leaders of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to build a website dedicated to family history. Here is a short explanation of the process from Wikipedia: FamilySearch:

In May 1999, the website first opened to the public as FamilySearch. The beta version, released April 1, almost immediately went off-line, overloaded because of high popularity. Only a few days after the official launch, the website had received an estimated 100 million hits. To handle the load, site visitors were only given access to the site for 15 minutes at a time. In November 1999, 240 million names were added, bringing the total number of entries to 640 million.

Of course, today FamilySearch.org has billions of records and a huge, very popular website. One of the challenges of the website is that it is constantly changing. FamilySearch continues to add and subtract features on a regular basis. I decided to take a close look at every part of the website that I could discover over the next blog posts. Of course, I will give my comments about the functionality, need, usefulness, ease-of-use, and ultimate value to genealogists about each section/feature/web page/whatever of the website. So here it goes.

I guess the place to start is the home page or start up page. You can see mine at the beginning of this post above. Now, what can I say? This seems to be the standard page for anyone who has not yet signed in to the website. It does not convey any useful information at all. It may be the vogue to have minimalist web pages but this one does not even identify FamilySearch as an entity except for the logo. I am not aware if anyone see anything different. That may happen in countries that do not speak English. The mobile app version of the start up page is exactly the same (for me). What is the secret? You can scroll down to see more information.

FamilySearch.org

Although I am not sure how I am supposed to know that this screen is really the first in a long number of screens that have more information. Many websites now use this scroll-down type of start-up page but usually, it is obvious from what you see that there is more information available by scrolling down. Here is a screenshot of Adobe.com. You can see that there are images at the bottom of the start up page that extend off of the page. This is a visual cue inviting you to scroll down for more information.

https://www.adobe.com/

Is it my screen size or whatever that keeps me from seeing that the startup page on the FamilySearch website is scrollable? I can see a bit of the next screen on my iPhone so maybe others see some visual cue as to the scrollable portion?

Now what?

I log in. Anyone using the website will soon learn that most of the features of the website are available only if you register for a free account. That is hard for me to show with an image because I am already signed into the website with an option that keeps me signed in for two weeks.

This brings me to one of the most common issues with the website: signing in. I have spent the last few days trying to help one of my associates sign into FamilySearch.org and also ChurchofJesusChrist.org, the website of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Since the initiation of the login requirements for both websites, members of the Church have been able to use the same login and password for both programs. That convenience has now ended and I am spending a significant amount of time helping people straighten out their passwords and logins. See the following announcement: "FamilySearch Accounts Now Separate from Church Accounts." See also: "FamilySearch and Church Account Split."

Here is a quote the "FamilySearch and Church Account Split" article.

FamilySearch is growing rapidly. Growth has made it necessary to separate FamilySearch.org and ChurchofJesusChrist.org accounts. As of September 13, 2021, FamilySearch accounts and accounts on ChurchofJesusChrist.org (Church Accounts) are no longer linked. The change does not change how most users sign in to FamilySearch.

In the previous system used to manage accounts, any account created on FamilySearch.org created a matching account on ChurchofJesusChrist.org. Similarly, any account created on ChurchofJesusChrist.org created a matching FamilySearch account. The dual linked accounts existed for all users. Now, FamilySearch accounts are created and managed only on FamilySearch.org and Church Accounts are created and managed only on ChurchofJesusChrist.org.

The change does not impact how you use FamilySearch.org. However, separating accounts allows FamilySearch.org to accommodate future growth, simplify access, improve security and privacy, and conserve Church resources.

This has always been a background issue with FamilySearch and almost all other websites. Logins and passwords are a mystery to many neophyte computer users but can be an issue with anyone using a computer. This is true for me because I have hundreds of specific logins and passwords to manage. (Please do not comment about the fact that there are programs available to manage my passwords. I know this. You might also remember that it takes a login and password to use these programs. I resort to a list rather than use another online program.)

Well, I got to the startup page. That was a good start. Only a few hundred or thousand pages to go.

Oh, do I have any suggestions for FamilySearch? Yes, redesign your startup page and show a path to more information like the mobile edition.

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